Political Predictions for 2012

2011 is starting to wind down which means that the 2012 elections will begin to heat up.  I decided to peer into the proverbial crystal ball locked away in the Peach Pundit command center and see what sort of things I could prognosticate.  I hope you enjoy these…I might even revisit these at the end of next year to see how off-target I was.  Feel free to share your own predictions in the comments.

Nathan’s 2012 Predictions:

Georgia Politics:

  • Senator Chip Rogers out as majority leader in the state senate.  Senate GOP caucus replaces Sen. Rogers with someone who would still be considered “anti-Cagle”, but would be willing to establish a peace with the Lieutenant Governor and granting some power back to Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle.  Some order is back in the state senate, but still dysfunctional.
  • With the state senate still in disarray, the state house becomes the more powerful chamber.
  • The Georgia economy continues to lag in 2012, so paramutual betting and casinos get a more serious look from the legislature.  Governor Deal will still continue to publicly denounce the idea, but he might allow for a serious look through different channels behind the scenes.
  • The Republicans are able to win a super-majority in the state house, but misses it in the state senate.
  • Georgia’s Congressional Districts:
  • Dispite a large backing of the Tea Party of Martha Zoller, Rep. Doug Collins becomes the new gentleman from Georgia’s Hall County-centered 9th Congressional District.
  • Congressman John Barrow is defeated in the 12th district and Georgia becomes a 10-4 GOP Congressional delegation.

National Politics:

  • Newt does something to falter and loses Iowa to Ron Paul.  Ron Paul makes a good showing in New Hampshire, but loses to Romney.  Romney takes South Carolina to build enough momentum to head into Super Tuesday.
  • Rick Santorum does something shocking and wins a primary state…maybe even Florida.
  • Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, and Huntsman drop out of race after Super Tuesday.
  • “Romney is the inevitable” advocates are right.  Newt isn’t able to hold on to the momentum and voters are turned-off to Ron Paul due to differences in foreign policy.  Romney becomes GOP nominee and possibly picks Gov. Nikki Hailey or Gov. Bobby Jindal as his running-mate.
  • Newt wins plurality in Georgia, Romney is 2nd, followed by Cain in 3rd place dispite his campaign “suspension”.
  • Newt drops out of presidential run and endorses Romney.  He might even get a cabinent-level position in exchange of support.
  • Republicans hold on to large majority in the US House.  Scott Brown loses senate race in MA, but Republicans will get a slight majority in the US Senate…around 52 or 53 seats.  Despite having a majority in both chambers, Democrats will still hold up legislation via filibuster.
  • Republicans are able to defeat President Barack Obama to win back the White House, but only barely.

One last general prediction: World doesn’t end due to the lapse of the Mayan calendar.  The Snowpocalypse might get us, but the Mayans can’t take us down.


  1. gopgal says:

    Nikki Hailey’s a lightweight, especially compared to Rhodes Scholar recipient Jindal. Romney might choose Santorum or perhaps Huckabee (to appeal to evangelicals). However, my money’s on Rubio since the alliteration is nice (Romney/Rubio) plus he adds youth to the ticket and brings the Hispanic vote and Florida.

  2. debbie0040 says:

    You are going to be wrong on many of your projections. If Senators make the mistake of ousting Chip Rogers and granting power back to Cagle, then expect a court challenge on grounds the Senators violated the GA Constitution. Expect Sen Mullis and others Senators to face primary opposition .

    Martha Zoller will win.

    Many GOP incumbents will face primary opposition, especially those campaigning on behalf of T-SPLOST…

    Santorum will be the VP

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      “Martha Zoller will win.”

      I like Zoller’s chances in the 9th as she seems to have a considerable degree of grass roots backing and she also has the name and face recognition from her talk show and her TV appearances on “The Georgia Gang”, but rather her high-profile media appearances translate into victory like one would expect remains to be seen.

      • 22bons says:

        Too early to make predictions in this race. I don’t think the field is set and believe there will be other viable candidates who qualify.

    • Nathan says:

      “If Senators make the mistake of ousting Chip Rogers and granting power back to Cagle, then expect a court challenge on grounds the Senators violated the GA Constitution.”

      Please enlighten me.

      • debbie0040 says:

        Separation of Powers. The Lt. Governor is a member of the Executive branch and has no business being involved with legislating. He is only the presiding/President officer of the Senate only much like a convention chairman presides over conventions. It is his job to keep the process running smoothly. The Vice-President is President/presiding officer of the U.S Senate but he only presides of the Senate and casts a tie-breaking vote. This is why when the GOP gained control of the Senate under Lt. Gov. Mark Taylor, they were able to legally remove power from him. The Lt. Governor was not supposed to have that power anyway but no one ever raised objections or challenged it. That won’t be the case if more power is granted to the the Lt. Governor than the GA Constituion allows next year. He already has more power than he is allowed under the GA Constitution and that will in all likelihood be challenged. Legislators should follow the Constitution and not ignore it because they are in power.

        I can just imagine a court challenge filed in an election year alleging some Republican Senators violated the GA Constitution. Imagine that would give the Dems talking points…

        • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

          “Imagine that would give the Dems talking points…”

          Talking points that will be completely ignored.

        • drjay says:

          that’s an interesting theory, i think the constitution itself is fairly silent on what the duties of the “president of the senate” actually are, which i imagine would give the body a lot of leeway in defining the tasks it deems appropriate for that officer to do his job. of course, i am thankfully, not a lawyer, so there is actually no telling what would happen if the issue went in front of a court…

        • Nathan says:

          The lieutenant governor is a member of the executive branch, I understand that. However, the state constitution allows for each chamber to create their own rules (see Article III, Section IV, Paragraph IV). It could be conceived that the senators can allow the lieutenant governor to have additional powers at their pleasure (in the case of Mark Taylor in 2003 and a somewhat similar case with Casey Cagle in 2011) through the rules of the senate as long as they were not inconsistent with the state constitution or the constitution of the United States. Whether it’s wise or not to allow the LG to have additional powers granted to him by the senate is debatable, but I don’t necessarily see how it could be deemed unconstitutional since I don’t see where it is prohibited by the state constitution. If I’ve missed it, please correct me with the article, section, and paragraph number.

          • debbie0040 says:

            The Constitution also mentions separation of powers between the branches. Many disagree with your interpretation . I guess a court challenge will settle it once and for all if the Senators are intent on violating the GA Constitution …

            • Nathan says:

              I’m not a lawyer, so I could be wrong. Of course, just because someone is a lawyer or a judge doesn’t mean they’re right either. I’m just saying that an explicit prohibition isn’t in the constitution (from what I have seen), so that allows for some room for interpretation. Also, mind you that the office of lieutenant governor is relatively new in terms of Georgia history (established in the 1930s, I believe), so our “tradition” seems to have allowed for a strong lieutenant governor in the senate. Again, whether that’s good or bad depends on which side of the stick you’re on. Personally, I’d rather see the power reside within the elected members of the legislature. If it goes to court, what the court decides will be fact. My speculation is that it won’t go to court though. Remember, we do elect a new General Assembly every 2 years.

              How many folks from the Tea Party plan on running for state senate? I’d say the easiest way of keeping the powers in check (i.e., controlling the rules) would be for the Tea Party-aligned people to run for and win state senate seats in order to control the Senate GOP Caucus. Sure, it’ll be tough, but if the Tea Party is as strong as you and others say it is, then it shouldn’t be as tough. Debbie Dooley for State Senate, perhaps?

              • debbie0040 says:

                “Personally, I’d rather see the power reside within the elected members of the legislature. If it goes to court, what the court decides will be fact. My speculation is that it won’t go to court though.”

                Personally, I would rather see legislators actually uphold the GA Constitution and not change it because they are in power. There is a SEPARATION of POWERS. IE: Executive Branch, Judicial Branch and Legislative Branch. The Judicial branch interprets and makes sure the GA Constitution is followed, not the Legislative Branch. The Legislative Branch DOES NOT have the right to throw portions of the Constitution out the window because they see fit and are in power. When they do there WILL BE court challenges. If the Senators wish to change the Constitution to give the Lt. Governor more power, then there is an amendment process they can follow.

                I have no desire to run for office. I prefer to be able to focus on getting good people elected to many offices instead of putting all my eggs in one basket.. I also love my job and would not want to give it up. Politics is a passion of mine but so is Information Technology. Yes, I confess, I am a computer geek…

                It is not just the State Senate tea party activists will be candidates in. I expect tea party candidates to run for state house, school boards, county commission, etc. In order to change America, we need to be patient and change it from the bottom up..

            • Andre says:


              I think, but am not sure, that the Courts typically shy away from involving itself in legislative rules based on the constitutional provision that, “Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.” [Article I, section 5, U.S. Constitution]

              The Constitution of the State of Georgia nearly mirrors the language found in Article 1, section 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

              It’s hard to argue that a rule of either legislative chamber is unconstitutional if the Constitution grants both legislative chambers the option of establishing its own rules of decorum and conduct.

              Plus, a court declaring a portion or all of a legislative chamber’s rules unconstitutional would create unneeded chaos and a set a bad judicial precedent.

              If the courts say, for example, that Rule 2-1.1 of the Rules of the Georgia Senate is unconstitutional, what is keeping those same courts from saying that Rule 3-1.2 unconstitutional?

              The Rules of the House are the Rules of the House. The Rules of the Senate are the Rules of the Senate. If a person wants to change the Rules of the House or the Rules of the Senate, they need to run for the House or the Senate. If that person is elected to either legislative body, then they can submit a proposal to amend the House or Senate rules.

              Going to the courts to change a legislative chamber’s rules is, in my opinion, just plain tacky.

              • Nathan says:

                Are you making a separation of powers argument then by saying that the judicial branch shouldn’t meddle in how the legislative branch conducts its business….unless it (explicitly?) contradicts the state or federal constitution?

                • Andre says:

                  That’s exactly what I’m arguing.

                  The Constitution of the State of Georgia and the Constitution of the United States gives the legislative branch the authority to determine the rules of its proceedings.

                  For the judicial branch to make a ruling on the Rules of the House or the Rules of the Senate would be an unprecedented encroachment of the judicial branch into the affairs of the legislative branch.

                  As I implied in my earlier comments on this subject, if a judge wants to change the Rules of the House; if a judge wants to change the Rules of the Senate, that judge needs to resign from the bench and run for the House or the Senate.

          • seekingtounderstand says:

            As a voter I would rather attention be given to Lt. Gov. personal driver and car. A car that runs idle while our Lt.Gov takes care of personal business around town. How elitist.

            • Cloverhurst says:

              Debbie- you do realize that the Tea Party would have no standing to sue if the Lt. Governor did receive some of his power as “President of the Senate” back.

              The 1945 Constitution that created the office of Lt. Governor (taking away power from Senators and the President Pro Tem) was expressly added to the Constitution by the Senate at the time. They wanted a presiding officer who could go toe to toe with the House and in effect the Governor since he chose the Speaker and other officers.

              Now why would they do that?

              At the same time, Melvin Thompson the first elected Lt. Governor became Governor after the death of Gene Talmadge (this is known as the Three Governors Controversy) never served a day in that office. Marvin Griffin who rose to the office of Lt. Governor took full reign as intended for that new position.

              It was not until the 1980’s that the Senate had any say in its committee organization etc. Zell Miller then known as Lt. Governor for life loosened his grip. In 2003 when power was stripped from Mark Taylor many would argue this was the wrong thing to do and contrary to the Georgia political tradition.

              These are the facts and history that any court will look at if you can conjure up a way to have standing.

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      I’m not necessarily sure if Mullis will be as ripe for the picking as some in OTP Metro Atlanta Tea Party circles seem to think that he will be as his strange preoccupation (obsession?) with building a high-speed rail line that connects Chattanooga with Metro Atlanta seems to play fairly well up in that Northwestern part of the state that he represents.

      • debbie0040 says:

        Not with the people I have talked to. He is being targeted by tea party activists in that area and his obsession with rail does not play well with most in that area…He has also ruffled many feathers.. Not talking about the chamber types…

      • We watch Mullis pretty closely, and until this last summer every single press release from his office mentioned high-speed rail. Around June or July Obama endorsed the idea and tried to throw money at it, on a national scale, and Mullis seemed to have realized which side of conservative v. liberal a magic five-billion-dollar train (with no stops in his own district) is on. He hasn’t mentioned the thing since, and if he starts making it an issue again his opponent(s) in July will have a better chance of defeating him.

        If he even runs. My comment on that will appear below.

        — LU

    • seekingtounderstand says:

      A rock could run against Doug Collins record while in office and win…………he has horrible record and simply wants to be on the government payroll again. You may not like Zoller but sending a message to the insiders is the most important thing this election cycle.

  3. debbie0040 says:

    Here is another one: some elected officials that are considering plans to boost the Unemployment Trust Fund by raising either tobacco taxes or increasing unemployment taxes on business will change their plans due to outcry from the tea party/voters…

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      I’m not necessarily so sure that state legislators may change their minds on that one due to the fact that the State of Georgia owes over $700 million to the federal government that the state had to borrow over the last two years to cover its share of unemployment benefits due to the unusually high unemployment rate over that period and also due to the fact that the state foolishly shorted the unemployment trust fund when times were better.

      Most of that tax increase won’t necessarily initially go to boosting the unemployment trust fund as much as it will go towards paying off the more than $700 million that the state owes to the Feds.

      • debbie0040 says:

        I guess they may not change their minds if they want to violate their pledge not to support a tax increase .. I can just imagine the fall out..

        • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

          It all depends on who they are most afraid of.

          The thousands of Tea Partiers that they made the anti-tax pledge to or the tens-of-thousands of unemployed, underemployed and those teetering on the brink of unemployment who might not be all that pleased to hear that state unemployment benefits were to run completely out, even for those who qualify for the benefits?

          For those legislators who took that pledge it’s pretty much a choice between bad and worse. In the event of which they have to choose, they’ll always choose the option that makes the lesser amount of voters very angry.

          • debbie0040 says:

            Most signed Grover Norquist’s pledge before the tea party movement became a factor in 2009.

            Of course, when they are agressively campaigning on behalf of the largest tax increase in Georgia history (T-SPLOST) they are also breaking that pledge.

            • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

              The politically-correct term for the T-SPLOST is “(in)voluntary taxpayer contribution to political slush funds” and, in the minds of nearly all politicians, those “contributions” don’t officially count as tax increases if people are properly brainwashed into directly voting to make said “contributions”.

                • Cloverhurst says:


                  What about this money going in a lock box that no DOT Board Member, State Senator, State Rep, Governor can touch do opponents not understand.

                  The TIA should be called the 10th Amendment Transportation Solution- Georgia is taking charge of its own future and solving its transportation woes.

                  We do not have the money with current motor fuel dollars to tackle these challenges.

                  If losing economic development projects to cities like Tampa and Orlando in the last 6 months don’t wake people up I don’t know what will- jobs/companies will leave if their employees and goods can’t get from point A to point B which is what we have now.

                  Debbie/Tea Party folks, what is your solution?

            • seekingtounderstand says:

              Deals $300 million bond debt for reservoir/real estate development could have been used for unemployment benefit debt. Its all debt and GA still gets 50% of its funding from the Federal Government.

  4. saltycracker says:

    When the dust settles and while we enjoy some of the positions of Newt & others, the only real compromise out there is Romney. Would love to see Rubio as V.P.
    Republicans must pick the right candidate and he cannot loose this election. This is the big one for a few generations.

    There are a lot of issues to deal with but three must be immediate:
    1. Debt reversal
    2. Obamacare repeal
    3. Immigration laws overhauled

    Government must address its debt, overhaul the tax laws (particularly those that incent personal debt), stick to its basic duties, regulate effectively and reverse its growth as an owner, employer or charity.

    If we do not act now to repeal Obamacare and companies shift to it, like Medicare, there will be no going back. As for the immigration laws that need overhauling the most effective tool to use is E-Verify.

    Ann Coulter makes an interesting case on two of them:


    ” In the upcoming presidential election, two issues are more important than any others: repealing Obamacare and halting illegal immigration. If we fail at either one, the country will be changed permanently.”

    Answer: Mitt Romney.


    • kyleinatl says:

      I’m so tired of this “this election is the most important of our generation” hyperbole. Every four years its the same thing, over and over again. Nothing changes, nothing will change. The moment someone new steps into the White House they become a part of the machine and if you think flip-flop Romney is some exception to that, you’re fooling yourself.

      • saltycracker says:

        Wrong – there is a point that debt cannot be increased while the costs and the obligations of Obamacare and open borders will be soon set, irreversible and insurmountable. We won’t know when it is over until it is over. 10 years, 20, more ?

        • saltycracker says:

          p.s. K,
          The probability may be that the U.S. will continue along until the cheap borrowed money runs out. A Republican coming in would push the crisis further out while Obama is a sure lock-in of no hope.

          So increase the credit card limit and enjoy another run of feel good.

  5. racinwithrex says:

    “Expect Sen Mullis and others Senators to face primary opposition . ”

    Mullis still has alot of people fooled in his District. He will still be the best Senator for Atlanta that North Ga. has. He’s our very own “Little Fat Buddie” Boss Hogg from this here end of the state. We’re just so proud to have him…. NOT!!!!!!!!!! After all he says he has the support of the Tea Party! Oh and we really laugh at the high speed rail idea since our roads are in such bad shape….

  6. I Miss the 90s says:

    2012 will be the last year of Tea Party influence. The Tea Party caucus’s ranks will think by at least half of their first-term members in the US Congress and the GOP knows that needs to throw the Tea Party under the bus if it wants to continue to hold the House or win the Presidency. The Tea Party is, and has been since mid-June, a liability.

    There is literally no point in predicting individual primary contests, Romney will win the nomination. The big question is who the VP nominee will be…nobody wants a repeat blunder like the Palin nomination, but there are not very many good choices. It will have to be somebody that was known but has been forgotten by the public. Tom Ridge, maybe. Jon Huntsman even (funny because he is running and nobody knows who he is). Chances are the GOP will fumble this simple assignment again and go about looking for some balance and nominate somebody way-out-there to provide ideological balance or to shore up the evangelical vote.

    President Obama will win reelection. He is popular, experienced, has a good track record, a few huge foreign policy successes and the American people overwhelming view him as a moderate. The only people that believe he is a liberal are the radical right-wing…the very group that has been publicly discrediting the GOP. Romney and Huntsman are the best shot the GOP has at winning the election, not because of principle (which has simply become synonymous with hate toward “the others”) but because they are men who stand FOR something and can get that message across. Not one other person in his primary contest stands FOR anything…they all stand against something else (and I will say that Romney fumbled his position on China, but he can always flip-flop on that to have a more attractive General Election position of cooperation with China rather than competition against China).

  7. Bridget says:

    Solid predictions on National Politics, Nate. I’m a Newt supporter and have made calls into Iowa on his behalf. For every undecided person I talked to, it was between him and Romney. The negative ads weren’t as big of a deal as “where will Newt get the money?”

  8. Three Jack says:

    my predictions for 2012:
    1. uga wins bcs national championship
    2. romney wins gop nomination, selects haley barbour as running mate
    3. ron paul and donald trump run as independents thus sealing a 2nd term for bho.
    4. ga legislature again fails to address the 3 primary issues facing our state: transportation, education and tax reform
    5. legislative incumbents face primary opposition more than ever
    6. braves finish 4th in the toughest mlb division
    7. hawks make it to nba finals against the thunder
    8. falcons exit playoffs in the first round, again…announce new outdoor stadium location

  9. John Walraven says:

    Debbie, have mercy. You’re in desparate need of a Constitutional lawyer. Be thankful those you’re accusing of malfeasance in government are public figures and can’t sue you.

    Also be aware that the Feds will jack up the UI by operation of law on GA businesses if the state defaults on its loan. Futher restrictions are then applied to the State. Should the state raise UI to cover the costs of the loan, the state has more flexibility in its operations for the unemployed and can offset the increase with another cut for businesses elsewhere as they contemplate macro tax reform.

    Also, how can a referendum where voters choose whether or not to apply a 1% tax for a special purpose be the largest tax increase in history? Don’t you think the decision to levy a 6% income tax many years ago has brought in a few more bucks than this T-SPLOST will? Ratcheting up the rhetoric is empty when the facts fly in the face of it.

    Nathan! You’re predictions were fun to read but Santorum winning Florida? In the best I can imitate the ESPN Monday Night Pre-Game Crew, “C’mon, Man!”

  10. Prediction #1: Georgia *does* elect the required 38 Republican members to the State Senate, providing a “Super Majority” (aka constitutional majority) to the Senate. The GOP needs to 38 seats to have the constitutional majority (not the 37 that I inadvertently posted earlier), and gets there by winning the new 27th in Rome, as well as defeating Doug Stoner (D-SmyrnHeadSprings).

    Nathan, what seat would the GOP lose and therefore fail on the CM?

    Prediction #2: The GOP wins 122 members of the House, also a constitutional majority. Might even get to 123 or 124.

    Prediction #3: With the success Sunday Sales as a model, we will see more voter referenda on the ballot this year and future years in order to let the voters decide factional conflicts within the GOP coalition. Issues like transportation, horse racing, abortion (and related issues), and educational choice will be addressed by voter referendum from 2012 to 2014.

    Prediction #4: Republicans will hold the US House, but lose a few. Republicans win a Senate majority by winning North Dakota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Missouri and Montana, and hold Heller in Nevada (R) (but not Brown in Mass). States like Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and Virginia are heavily dependent upon a quality Republican nominee who can hold the traditional GOP coalition together, and predicting a good GOP nominee is like predicting Charlie Sheen’s daily attitude.

    Prediction #5: former Congressman John Barrow (D-“SomeplaceNew”) will be glad he didn’t buy anything in Augusta, but chose to rent a house instead year-by-year instead. Look to see if he buys rather than rents in order to judge his confidence on his own election prospects.

    • Andre says:


      This is a good debate that is centered around the question of whether the Lt. Governor is a member of the executive branch or the legislative branch.

      The Constitution of the State of Georgia says in Article III, Section III, Paragraph I, sub-section (a):

      The presiding officer of the Senate shall be styled the President of the Senate.

      Article III of the Constitution of the State of Georgia carries the heading, “Legislative Branch”. Section III carries the heading, “Officers of the General Assembly”.

      The Constitution of the State of Georgia says in Article V, Section I, Paragraph III:

      There shall be a Lieutenant Governor, who shall be elected at the same time, for the same term , and in the same manner as the Governor. The Lieutenant Governor shall be the President of the Senate and shall have such executive duties as prescribed by the Governor and as may be prescribed by law not inconsistent with the powers of the Governor or other provisions of this Constitution. The compensation and allowances of the Lieutenant Governor shall be as provided by law .

      The key provision in the referenced paragraph above is:

      The Lieutenant Governor shall be the President of the Senate and shall have such executive duties as prescribed by the Governor and as may be prescribed by law not inconsistent with the powers of the Governor or other provisions of this Constitution.

      Again, Article V of the Constitution of the State of Georgia carries the heading, “Executive Branch”.

      However, under the “Executive Branch” heading, Georgia’s Constitution says the Lt. Governor shall be the President of the Senate. And under the “Legislative Branch” heading, Georgia’s Constitution says the presiding officer shall be styled the President of the Senate.

      In other words, the Lt. Governor of Georgia is the President of the Georgia State Senate; and the President of the Georgia State Senate is the presiding officer of the Georgia State Senate.

      All that being said, in any parliamentary body, the role of the presiding officer is to adhere to the rules of the assembly; to make sure those rules are enforced; to maintain order and decorum in the assembly; to recognize members entitled to speak; to call for a vote on motions before the assembly; to announce the results of votes on motions before the assembly; to rule on points of order; and to exercise any additional duties that the assembly may assign to the presiding officer in the adopted rules of procedure.

      The Rules of the Georgia Senate are the rules of that parliamentary body.

      The Rules of the Georgia Senate are rules that were considered, debated, and voted on by the entire assembly.

      The Georgia Senate adopted rules of procedure that assigned additional duties to the presiding officer. The presiding officer of the Georgia Senate is the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate is the Lt. Governor of Georgia. The Georgia Senate adopted rules of procedure that assigned additional duties to the Lt. Governor in his official role of presiding officer of the Georgia Senate.

      Taking the Constitution of the State of Georgia at face value, the Senators can assign the Lt. Governor any additional duties they deem necessary to efficiently run the Georgia Senate using the authority granted by Article III, Section IV, Paragraph IV of the Georgia Constitution.

      Conversely, the Senators can remove any additional duties they’ve assigned the Lt. Governor using the same authority granted by the Constitution of the State of Georgia.

      That’s my “unofficial” interpretation of the Constitution of the State of Georgia.

      • seekingtounderstand says:

        I think the attention that this will draw to the Republicans and our Lt. Gov will make them look bad. Land deals on new DOT roads in Hall County should be looked into. Why the car and driver for the LT> GOV. he doesn’t have security threats or does anything but campaign.

      • debbie0040 says:

        They cannot assign duties that the Constitution does not allow. The Constitution is clear on the separation of powers and Senators do not have Constitutional authority to override the Constitution.. The Lt. Governor presides over the Senate much like a convention chairman presides over a convention. He has no business appointing committee chairman, members etc. He has no business deciding what committee a bill is sent to. That is legislating. Read the opinion. Baker was very clear in his interpretation.

        It is clear the GA Supreme Court will need to make a ruling on this if a court challenge is filed..
        Get it settled once and for all..

        • Nathan says:

          Debbie, I’m curious if you’ve ever been apart of a convention or been a chairman of a deliberative body.

          A convention chairman can appoint interim committee chairmen and members. Although in terms of a convention, these may be temporary committees in order to get preliminary business taken care of and require the full convention to act upon these committees to make them permanent for the duration of the convention. Of course, these tend to be laid out in the convention rules and, where appropriate, Robert’s Rules of Order.

          As a county chairman, I have the authority to appoint or remove permanent committee chairmen and members at my discretion for my county Republican party. It’s laid out in our county rules, and could be changed either at convention or brought before the full county committee.

          Also, to legislate means to make or enact laws. A presiding officer who assigns a bill to a committee does not enact law. The president (or president pro-tem) of the senate is delegating to the appropriate committee in order to report back to the full deliberative body…the president is not legislating.

          The opinion you state above is dealing with an officer of the judiciary branch…not an officer of the state who is a member of the executive branch who also has the duty of presiding over the senate. The lieutenant governor may not be a member of the legislative body, per se, but he does have a role to play in the legislature as defined by the state constitution.

          Just curious, how would one go about suing a legislative body in order to get this addressed by the state supreme court?

          • debbie0040 says:

            I have actually been Parlimentarian at County Conventions and in fact help organize many of them – long before you were even born…

            You file a court challenge against one or two Senators that voted to violate the Constitution .. Legal precedent argues elected official can bepersonally sued if they knowingly violate the Constitution..

            WhatsNew December 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm
            Article I, Section II, Paragraph III: The legislative, judicial, and executive powers shall forever remain separate and distinct; and no person discharging the duties of one shall at the same time exercise the functions of either of the others except as herein provided.

            It seems the constitution addresses the double branch dipping issue

        • WhatsNew says:

          Article I, Section II, Paragraph III: The legislative, judicial, and executive powers shall forever remain separate and distinct; and no person discharging the duties of one shall at the same time exercise the functions of either of the others except as herein provided.

          It seems the constitution addresses the double branch dipping issue

      • Andre’s comments are in line with what most people think the Constitution intends and certainly what has been the practice in Georgia for a long number of years.

        Under the current rules of the Senate, the Lt. Governor still has certain powers other than sitting there as a potted plant. Are these powers unconstitutional? I don’t think so.

        A suit to determine these things would be a big waste of time and money as I suspect the Courts would interpret the Constitution exactly as Andre has said. Thus after all that time and money we’d be where we are now: The Senators and the Lt. Governor must work things out amongst themselves.

    • Not sure what this unofficial opinion about a ADA serving as a Legislator has to do with the Lt. Gov’s powers. All it says is a person cannot be employed by two branches of government at the same time. The Ly. Governor is employed by only one branch of State Government but as Andre points out, the Constitution creates the office of the Lt. Governor and then says he/she shall preside over the Senate.

      It seems to me it all comes down to what the word preside means. It’s always been interpreted to mean whatever Senate Rules say it means. Thus the Senators can give as much or as little control over the Senate as they see fit.

      I hope the Tea Party is not pondering using their time and money on a court fight over this.

      • debbie0040 says:

        Article I, Section II, Paragraph III: The legislative, judicial, and executive powers shall forever remain separate and distinct; and no person discharging the duties of one shall at the same time exercise the functions of either of the others except as herein provided.

        We intend to make sure the GA Constitution is followed and not ignored by State Senators and the Lt. Governor..

        • c_murrayiii says:

          Serious question here, cause I really don’t know. But what powers does the Lt. Gov. exercise under the Executive branch that would prevent him from exercising power under the legislative branch? I may be reading too much into this, I welcome any insight.

  11. John Walraven says:

    Um, ok. So an Asst. DA, an officer of the court for the Judicial branch, can not serve as a public officer in the legislative branch. Excellent application of the facts to the law by Mr. Dunn. I’m at a loss about why I needed to read that, but I learned another law today & I guess I’m better for it.

    • debbie0040 says:

      Nice try at ignoring the separation of powers issue addressed in that opinion. Ignore all you want, the courst will not ignore it and neither will voters…

      • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

        The courts won’t ignore it if it actually comes before them in a legal challenge, which with seeing how exceptionally unfocused the General Assembly can be at times, in this case, the State Senate, it likely won’t.

        The voters likely will ignore it like they have for the last 70-80 years as they just see the power struggle in the State Senate as just the latest in a long and continuing line of endless high-profile petty food fights between a bunch of frat boyish legislators who seem to do the same thing virtually EVERY year, which is scream “MINES” like a group of spoiled small children who never quite grew out of the ‘terrible-two’s’ stage of their personal social and psychological development.

      • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

        Being well aware of how our highly-esteemed state legislators have been known to behave at times, the internal battle in the State Senate most likely has nothing to do with separation of powers and probably has a lot more to do with certain legislators who sometimes seem to have problems respecting ‘boundaries’.

  12. Ken says:

    1. National
    If Ron Paul wins Iowa, it is the worst thing that could happen to him. The spotlight illuminates his differences with vast majority of the GOP. He likely finishes 2nd, but becomes a more polarizing figure.
    Michele Bachmann finishes below 4th place. Goes on to New Hampshire, does poorly and then drops out when South Carolina numbers are not there.
    Gingrich barely finishes 3rd in Iowa and combined with Virginia debacle, this forces him to rethink organizational and fundraising strategies and he wins South Carolina.
    Perry builds campaign and actually wins Florida due to large war chest.
    Super Tuesday becomes a huge showdown. Money carries the day.

    Romney wins GOP nomination due to organization, funds and open primaries.
    Romney defeats Obama in November as conservatives clench their teeth and support him.
    Republicans take control of the US Senate and are immediately stymied by the northeastern Republican senators in many matters (but that’s 2013).

    2. Georgia
    State senate continues to be a circus. Multiple political careers will be truncated because of this UNLESS a leader emerges who can transcend the trash.
    The state senate debacle will not be an overwhelming victory for either side and there will be casualties on both sides unless an agreement is reached. There are dire 2014 ramifications in this for statewide candidates.
    Speaker of the House David Ralston quietly and efficiently becomes the most powerful man in Georgia state politics.
    John Barrow loses his congressional seat to the GOP nominee, and speaking of which, another GOP congressional candidate emerges after the state legislative session is past.
    Nathan Deal continues to surprise many as he establishes with certainty that he is an effective governor.
    After the November elections, conservative Republicans begin quietly seeking a primary opponent for Senator Saxby Chambliss in 2014.
    Horseracing in Georgia dies a quiet death because the horseracing industry could not be bothered to tailor a presentation to Georgia based upon Georgia’s specific needs.
    Congressman Austin Scott will not draw a significant Democratic opponent in the general election.

    And before you say anything, I am not endorsing any presidential candidate, but I will say that Romney is not among my top tier of choices. things could change and he may not be the nominee, but as things look now, he likely will be.

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      “State senate continues to be a circus.”

      Man, you must have a positive outlook if you expect conditions in that wacked-out legislative body to improve THAT much this year.

      They’ve got a lot of work to do to become as respectable and as FOCUSED as a circus show.

      • Ken says:

        I was trying to be kind to the state senate, but you’re correct and the better phrase might have been “three ring circus without a ringmaster after someone unlocked the lion cage”.


  13. Cloverhurst says:

    Debbie continues to prove that she has no grasp of history or our state constitution.

    You do realize that the Vice Presidents role with the US Senate has been diminished by tradition- not by any great awakening to the true intent of the Constitution by the Senate.

    Also- what does the Georgia Tea Party stand for- we live in a state that is 49th in per capita spending, 49th in per capita taxes and 49th in per capita transportation spending sounds to me like the Tea Party’s dream.

    Focus your time on Washington- thats where the problems are.

    Hell they should be 100% behind the T-Splost- which is Georgia taking the reins of its own future (10th amendment) and funding crucially needed infrastructure and transportation improvements w/o federal money or support.

    This is only necessary because there hasn’t been a Federal Highway bill since 2002- 9 extensions, the gas tax dollars we send to DC from Georgia have been cut 32% and our motor fuel dollars we generate here have decreased from 1.2B to 980M.

    • debbie0040 says:

      And you and your co-horts continue to prove that you are so arrogant that think you can just amend the GA Constitution without going through proper channels. I would advise you to read the opinion. Unlike the U.S Constitution in regard to the VP, the GA Constitution is very clear the the Lt. Governor is a member of the Executive Branch..

      We are going to continue to focus on both lcoal and national issues.

    • Nathan says:

      Nope, nor have I received a phone call from the professor mentioned in the article.

      I have nothing against Sen. Rogers. From what I’ve heard, he’s a pretty swell guy. Like I’ve said previously, I believe that he and the coup ended up wounding the king rather than toppling him and nothing has progressed in the senate since that time.

  14. billdawers says:

    I don’t see any chance of a VP nomination for Haley, but Bobby Jindal would likely be on any candidate’s short list. As noted above, Rubio could also be an interesting choice.

    • Nathan says:

      I think Rubio is a good consideration, but wouldn’t it be better to let him work in the Senate? I would prefer Jindal over Haley or Rubio since both were elected only last year. Elevating the frosh might look good for the rock stars, but I would say it’s premature right now. We need strong conservatives in the U.S. Senate. Let Sen. Rubio work his way up through the Senate ranks.

    • drjay says:

      if the gop feels the need to “balance the ticket” or shake things up or whatever susana martinez is a swing state guv in addition to her femaleness and hispanicness…

  15. Rambler1414 says:

    T-SPLOST in Metro Atlanta will fail.

    Rural Legislators will continue not to realize that if you subtract Atlanta from Georgia, you’re left with Alabama or Mississippi.

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      Can’t necessarily blame the rural legislators anymore as the explosive population growth in North Georgia in recent years means that it is the legislators from the Atlanta Region driving the short bus now.

      The General Assembly has become so (much more) dysfunctional (than even before) in recent years that one might be able to assume that they honestly may not know how to operate any other way.

  16. Gary Cooper says:

    Ok here goes:

    In Georgia:

    – State Senate and State House elect enough to give the GOP constitutional majorities in both chambers.
    – Not sure about Chip Rogers being taken out of his position, but I do believe the GOP Senate will grant some powers back to the Lt. Governor.
    – Zoeller will win CD 9
    – Marshall in 2010, Barrow in 2012. GOP finally gets to the 10 member majority it was seeking in 2004.
    – Newt Gingrich will win the GA GOP Presidential Primary, but Romney surprises and comes in a close second because of his momentum (see below).

    US Politics:
    – Mitt Romney secures the GOP nomination on Super Tuesday after winning Iowa, NH, Florida, Nevada, and Michigan prior to the March date. He goes on to chose SC Senator Jim DeMint as his VP running mate and secures the full support of GOP conservatives and the Tea Party solidifying something McCain wasn’t able to do and that is unite the GOP.
    – Despite someone saying he was popular, successful, and the majority of American’s believe he is a moderate and not liberal; the facts do not back them up regarding President Obama. Because of the bad economy, low approval ratings (suggesting he is not popular), and the fact that most Americans (including independents) view him as a liberal, President Obama will lose to Mitt Romney in the General Election. While the popular vote will be close, the electoral count will not as the Romney/DeMint ticket squeak out close wins in PA, WI, MI, OH, VA, and CO.
    – The GOP will win back the Senate and will actually have about 55-56 seats when all is said and done, setting them up nicely for 2014 midterms when the Dems have to defend the big 2008 pickups. They will take the open seats in New Mexico, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Virginia and Nebraska. They will defeat incumbents in Florida, Montana, Missouri, and Michigan. They will keep all of the 10 seats they are defending including Scott Brown in MA as Warren will prove to be Coakley 2.0 and Brown will squeak out a close win. Nevada and Arizona will be close early, but GOP machine, candidates, and money will allow the races to begin to pull away late in the cycle.
    – The GOP will maintain the House majority thanks in large part to reapportionment. Dems likely to pick up a seat or two. Won’t be many.
    -Unemployment will not drop below 8.4% by the time November rolls around and GDP will continue to be revised downward spiking more fears of a double-dip. This will ultimately lead to the defeat of President Obama after Biden once again declares this summer to be Recovery Summer as if living Groundhog Day all over again.

    – The EU will be completely weakened by the continuing issues with it’s most vulnerable economies on the verge of collapse. This will setup a showdown where some of the anti-EU countries threaten to leave the EU and setup for possible conflict in 2013.
    – Syria will become the 2012 version of Lybia.
    – Iran nuclear facilities will be leveled……not sure if US or Israel….but someone will level them.
    – Venezuela and Cuba will finally rid themselves of their brutal leadership as health issues claim Castro and Chavez.

    In better news:

    -UGA will finally get over the hump and win the SEC setting them up to be 7th SEC NC in a row.
    – Falcons will finally beat the Saints and win the NFC South, a playoff game or two and compete for a Super Bowl spot.
    – The Hawks make a blockbuster trade for Dwight Howard and shred the laughingstock moniker off the franchise with a surprise trip to the NBA Finals.
    – The 15 minutes of fame for the following will come to an end: Twilight, Lady Gaga, Bieber, Taylor Swift, The Jersey Shore, and hopefully, the Real Housewives Crap. Sadly, the only reason their 15 minutes are up will be because someone else will step in and take it from them.

    Ok thats a wrap.

  17. Bull Moose says:

    Political predictions are the best blogs ever! They generate a lot of opinions and bring everyone out of the wood work!

    Here’s my take:

    – Newt will not be the Republican nominee. Had he built a stronger organization, he would be. He will do well though and last at least through the GA primary.
    – Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee. He will stay in though and be tempted to jump to a third party bid but turn it down. He may cause some waves at the Convention.
    – Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee.
    – After being rebuffed by DeMint, Romney offers the VP slot to Santorum.
    – Barack Obama switches Biden for Clinton. Obama/Clinton slightly beat Romney/Santorum.
    – Republicans come close to losing the House, but retain a slim majority.
    – Boehner resigns as Speaker, replaced by Cantor.
    – Republicans/Democrats are deadlocked in the Senate w/ Clinton breaking a tie for the Dems.
    – Scott Brown loses in MA
    – Other GOP losses: NV, IN

    I stopped following GA politics, but I’m pretty sure there is that special FBI task force on corruption working out of Atlanta. Perhaps there will finally be some movement on that investigation.

    – T-SPLOST passes fairly easy across the state, except in Northwest Georgia

  18. Rick Day says:

    Ron Paul and Gary Johnson supporters are preliminarily planning on a caucus watching ‘victory’ party on Tuesday night at one of my facilities.

    I like these guys. Free Marketers. They always pay full price, no questions asked.

    My Green Friends…well..meh… evidently what’s mine is theirs. *shrugs* whatever.

  19. Odds right now are 50/50 that Jeff Mullis jumps into the race to challenge Tom Graves for new US House district 14. He’s got the clout and financial support to make a good go of it – during the 2008 and 2010 election cycles his campaign donations were in second-place of all State Senators, at the level necessary to try and head to DC. He’s been courting deep-pocket potential donors around Rome, an area he currently doesn’t represent – building a foundation to get more support there when he runs for the US House district Rome is in. He already has a DC mindset, he’d fit right in.

    Steve Tarvin isn’t running for CD 14, he’s going to shoot for Mullis’ position in the State Senate, whether Mullis wants it back or not. I think he’s got a good chance, even if Mullis stays. Tom Graves will have minimal opposition and every race north of Cherokee County will be decided in July due to a compete lack of Democratic candidates.

    Alan Painter is going to run for Ga House 1 to replace Martin Scott, Scott announced last year he won’t run again (he barely showed up during the 2011 session) and Painter is preparing to publicly announce his candidacy within the next couple weeks. That’s not a prediction, that one is a fact.

    TSPLOST is on the edge in Northwest Georgia. It all depends on the mood of Whitfield County voters. Starting on Sunday Whitfield County will have the lowest sales tax in Georgia (5%) and the folks there might just decide they like it that way. If Whitfield supports it, it’ll happen – if they go against it, it’ll die on the vine. None of the projects I’ve seen proposed (outside of a second Interstate exit in Dade County) make any sense whatsoever and few people are excited to rally behind them.

    — LU

  20. debbie0040 says:

    If Steve challenges Mullis, it won’t be close. Tarvin would run away with it. We need more legislators like Tarvin under the Gold Dome.

    Mullis has no chance of defeating Tom Graves….Mullis is a political opportunist, not a conservative. If the Democrats were in charge, he would be a Democrat..

    I met with the Dalton’s Mayor Pennington and he says T-SPLOST will die in Whitfield county..

  21. cheapseats says:

    Predictions from 30,000 feet – the long view

    Republicans/Conservatives will run the tables – win big everywhere. They will then proceed to become the most hated and vilified group (far surpassing the Dems) as nothing gets better and the state and country begin to realize that neither the D’s nor the R’s have anything to offer and don’t really care about the citizens anyway.

  22. racinwithrex says:

    I for one hope that Steve Tarvin does run against Mullis. Jeff Mullis has fooled so many for so long that he really truly believes his own storys now days. I give him alot of credit for knowing how to play the game with a sole commissioner from one county a finiance officer from another county and a couple of commissioners from a county who just want his attention. Other than that he record speaks for itself. Now finding folks who look at his record is a hard thing to do here in Dade County….. He has figured out to be buddies with our local media, who works very hard to help promote his buddie and we see his picture alot.

  23. racinwithrex says:

    “his own stories”

    Not that this county (Dade) could make or break Mullis for or from office. We are just to small of a county (registered voters) that the only thing we want is to have a HERO and get some attention from them. We will have to hope that we get alot of help from “his” other counties that matter.

    • There’s no love for Jeff Mullis at The Summerville News. They don’t intentionally “go after” him out of spite but they don’t avoid it when it’s necessary. The Walker Co paper is garbage, as is its sister paper in Catoosa. The editor of the Dade Sentinel is on the Northwest Georgia Jeffmullis Development Authority board and likely gets compensated for that, but we don’t know if he’s paid because they’re a nonprofit under state law but not under federal IRS rules, which means they’ve got no accountability.

      — LU

  24. My predictions:

    1) Romney wins Iowa, New Hampshire, taking an early strong lead
    2) Rick Santorum potentially takes second in Iowa, but likely takes third place with Ron Paul in second. Gingrich takes fifth, behind Perry in fourth
    3) John Huntsman takes a strong third in New Hampshire, but drops out after failing to win. Ron Paul takes second (and nobody cares, again) while Gingrich holds onto fourth place, keeping him just credible enough to continue
    4) Gingrich wins South Carolina and Florida, holding on for dear life because of the media painting his campaign as dysfunctional
    5) Everyone but Ron Paul and Rick Perry are out by the end of January. There may be one or two other brave souls who try to trek on, but those campaigns, like their flow of donations, have frozen in the Snow-State Primaries and Caucuses of February.
    6) Romney wins Nevada, Maine, Colorado, Minnesota, Arizona and Michigan in February to solidify his frontrunner status. Arizona will probably be the closest race, with Nevada being the second closest.
    7) It is a two man race by Super Tuesday because Ron Paul has grown more irrelevant by alienating nearly every mainstream Republican voter and Rick Perry has failed to bring in the fundraising dollars to stay viable; Romney is the inevitable nominee by the end of the day, though Gingrich and Perry aren’t completely out until after the April 3rd primaries.

    Georgia Congressional:
    1) Rick Allen runs a strong race against Sanford Bishop in the 2nd, but because of the Macon addition to the district, it proves too difficult to be accomplished. At least it’s better than the 2000/2002 scenario where a strong candidate took on Bishop in 2000 and then he went unchallenged in 2002. Interestingly, Bishop only has about $150,000 in the bank right now, so he certainly drained a lot of his resources to survive the last election.
    2) John Barrow is defeated. By whom, I honestly couldn’t tell you at this point. Though I like Maria Sheffield a lot, I just don’t see someone who has planted herself in a district that she hasn’t lived in for decades as the winner. I’m inclined to think that Rep. Lee Anderson will win, but nothing is certain at this point besides the defeat of Barrow.
    3) Martha Zoller wins in the new 9th. Doug Collins finishes in a respectable second.
    4) 10 Republicans, 4 Democrats for our delegation. Life is good.

    Georgia Legislature:
    1) Republicans win 2/3 majorities in both the House and the Senate.
    2) Milton County is resurrected, for better or for worse.

    Beyond that, I won’t speculate too much.

  25. Doug Grammer says:


    Iowa: Romney 1st, Paul 2nd, Newt 3rd, Santorum 4th, Bachman 5th, Perry 6th, Huntsman last…all with not much percentage differences between 1-3 and 4-6.

    New Hampshire: Romney 1st, Huntsman 2nd, Santorum 3rd, Newt 4th, Paul 5th Perry 6th, Bachman last…all without much % diffs across the board.

    South Carolina: Newt 1st, Romney 2nd, Paul 3rd, Perry 4th, Santorum 5th, Bachman 6th Huntsman last..Bachman may drop out here

    Florida: Romney 1st, Newt 2nd, Paul 3rd, Perry 4th, huntsman 5th, Santorum last…Huntsman and Santorum drop

    Colorado: Romney, Paul, Newt
    Minnesota: Paul, Romney, Newt
    Missouri: Newt, Romney, Paul (but doesn’t count)

    Arizona: Newt, Romney, Paul
    Michigan: Romney, Newt, Paul

    Washington: Romney, Newt, Paul

    The day of the Washington caucus just before super Tuesday, Newt is endorsed by Bachman, Perry and Santorum…Huntsman endorses Romney

    Newt wins the majority of the states on Super Tuesday and goes on to win the nomination. Paul hangs on after he mathematically can’t win the nomination. They still don’t let him speak at the convention.

    Newt wins in November with Rudy Giuliani as V.P. to help carry New York for the first time in a very long time. Large margin by EC votes, but close by popular election.


    Large trend of party switchers leads to Rino hunters. They are not very successful and don’t have much influence. They only people who take them seriously are other Rino hunters.

    Maria Sheffield wins GA 12, Zoller and Collins go to a run off. Final count 10 to 4.

    No one runs against Sen. Mullis and if they do, they don’t get much above 30%.

    Steve Tarvin doesn’t run for anything.

    Alan Painter gets elected when no one else qualifies.

    Debbie can’t find a lawyer to take her case against the Georgia senate, files herself and a Judge throws out her case immediately for lack of standing..(among other reasons.) She continues to complain.

    Grammer talks a walk and doesn’t post on peach pundit for at least 6 months….under his own name.

    • I agree about Alan Painter, seems like nobody loves the Dade/Kensington/Rossville district very much. Mullis will probably still win even if Tarvin does challenge him, definitely wins if anyone else challenges him. But what do you think about the odds of Mullis running against Graves?

      — LU

      • chefdavid says:

        Mullis running against Graves? Now that would be a beat down I would pay to see in a debate. What could Mullis say against Graves voting record in DC? I guess Mullis could say “I would vote more liberal than Graves and make deals with the democrats.” (see his record last year) Other than a last minute Monday mailer bashing on the hotel deal I think Mullis wouldn’t have a prayer.

        • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

          If Mullis knows what’s good for him he’ll stay in his comfortable little extreme Northwestern Georgia perch where he can run virtually unopposed and obsess over his high-speed rail and HOT Lane schemes in the State Senate as Chairman of the State Transportation Board.

          Mullis may think he wants some of Graves, but Mullis doesn’t really want any parts of Graves.

          If Mullis is stupid enough to bark up that tree, that is one huge tree that will fall on him.

      • Doug Grammer says:

        Sen. Mullis won’t be running for congress anytime soon UNLESS Congressman Graves decides not to run again for some reason. I happen to love the Dade/Kensington/Rossville district a lot, I just didn’t want to move there to run for that.

    • I would agree with you about Newt in Missouri (which would have been crucial for sustaining momentum), but he didn’t make it on the non-binding caucus ballot on that date. With Virginia out on Super Tuesday and Missouri out in February, it’ll be tough to recover from that.

    • racinwithrex says:

      Hey Doug, “No one runs against Sen. Mullis and if they do, they don’t get much above 30%.”

      Somehow it just feels better looking at Jeff Mullis record and knowing the truth and being in the 30% than thinking he’s some kind of superstar Senator and hoping he might help you futher your career in politics. One of these days (maybe a ways off) but that someone will run against him that holds him accountable, shows the folks here in Northwest Ga. who he really is and then, maybe then, we will have a Senator and not someone who wants to retire off the backs of the taxpayers!

      Guess you can put me down for the 1% of the 30% because he might get my money but he will never get my vote!

      • Doug Grammer says:

        At least you are voting. I’m calling it like I see it. I told everyone last time he was challenged that he would win in a landslide and he did.

        I wouldn’t use the term superstar, but he’s well respected in the halls of the Senate if not on the pages of peach pundit. I don’t hope for anything. I help Sen. Mullis when it’s time to knock on doors because I like him. He’s got some faults, but overall, I think he’s a good guy. I don’t agree with every move he makes (he endorsed Gov. Perry, and I thought about supporting him.) or every vote he casts, but I agree with him more than most of the time. If I decide to do something and I need my Senators help, I know I’ll have it because we are friends, not because he owes me anything.

        • What areas do you agree with him on? His decision to intervene and advocate against a highway project in Rome running through a cow pasture of a potential millionaire supporter, while he refused to get involved with highway projects in his home district? His continual waste of time pursuing high-speed rail that doesn’t even have stops in his district (not that it matters since we’d all be dead before the first train ran even if they started building it today)? His advocacy for TSPLOST, which (if implemented) will raise most counties’ sales tax to the same level as Tennessee’s even though TN doesn’t have an income tax? His declaration that he represents Chattanooga County? His leech-like position as the unaccountable CEO of NWGAJDA? His many trips to Germany and elsewhere to (in the words of our county commissioner) “bring back information” ?

          What has the man done in 12 years to help anybody living in his district, besides people like you who are his “friends” ?

          — LU

          • Doug Grammer says:

            I’m not even sure where to begin. “His declaration that he represents Chattanooga County?” He was elected and his district includes Chattooga County. There is no Chattanooga County. I’m not sure if that’s a slam or a promotion of a misstatement that Sen. Mullis made, nor do I really care.

            His position of Director of NWGAJDA is accountable to the county commissioners of the counties involved. I know you don’t like it, but you can take that up with the county commissioners.

            I happen to like the concept of high speed rail. I may or may not like the cost. You may defend horses and buggies, but progress will come. I’ll trust Sen. Mullis to go overseas and examine the details and let us know if it something that will work here. It’s part of what we hired him to do. It’s nothing he can do by himself, so your horse and buggies are safe this year.

            I’m not going to refute everything y0u say or bring up. If I did, you’d just bring up more. Obviously you have an agenda, and I am not about to list everything I agree with the Senator on. I have other things to do than to worry about what 3 to 5 anonymous posters on PP have to say. Let’s just call that agreeing to disagree.

    • The Last Democrat in Georgia says:

      Thanks for the background on Mullis as I was just getting ready to ask if you had any background on Georgia state legislators’ recent trips to Germany (including Speaker Ralston’s German trainmaker-funded family trip to Europe in November 2010 to ‘research trains’).

      I didn’t pay much attention to or care much about Mullis until he went on TV touting the “success” of the I-85 HOT lanes back in early December, which anything even remotely HOT lane-related immediately draws my ire and scorn. Before then, the most that I knew about Mullis was that he was on the Senate Transportation Committee and always seemed to be talking about high-speed rail to Chattanooga.

    • Doug Grammer says:

      By the way LU, I started to read your hit piece on Sen. Mullis, but you had trouble with facts in the second paragraph when you started into his background. “Mullis contested that election in court but Huggins remained in office for another term.” The fact of the matter is that Sen. Mullis started to contest the election results, but was told he did not have standing because he did not do so within 5 calendar days. He was advised by the then secretary of state Massey’s
      office that he had 5 business days. Sen. Mullis decided that it would be best for everyone to just beat him two years later, instead of going through court.

      “Sonny Huggins of Lafayette, who had represented the area ever since dinosaurs lost their right to vote.”  You also left out  that Sen. Huggins had won re-election by beating Se. Black who had beaten him two years before. No dinosaurs were spotted in Walker county in 1996.

      If might be entertaining reading, but I’m not going to bother with it if you can’t get facts straight from the get go.

  26. racinwithrex says:

    Like LU, we keep up with Jeff Mullis pretty well and I just thought it was funny that Mr. Grammer made the comment about not agreeing with everthing like his endorsement of Rick Perry (I guess when the country seen how stupid he really looked). Mullis spent a trip out to Texas to get a picture of him with Perry and wasn’t able to be reached. I guess that trip was to “bring back information” like so many he takes on the backs of the taxpayers.

    “Mullis, who was in Texas on Wednesday, could not be reached for comment through his legislative office, cell phone or e-mail”

    • Doug Grammer says:

      For the record, I considered backing Rick Perry. I thought the number of jobs that have been created in Texas would play very well in a general election. Sen. Mullis should have waited to watch him debate a few times before endorsing him. I imagine Sen. Mullis will back Newt before March 6th.

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